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badatprogrammingibe
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

I want to use data from wikipedia.
CosmicBunBun
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

You already can, since Wikipedia and it's commons operate under CC0 already. In fact, you can use just about any image as long as credit is given, as Scratch is educational and is protected by Creative Commons already.
apple502j
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

CosmicBunBun wrote:

You already can, since Wikipedia and it's commons operate under CC0 already. In fact, you can use just about any image as long as credit is given, as Scratch is educational and is protected by Creative Commons already.
Wrong. Wikipedia still uses Cc By Sa 3.0

badatprogrammingibe wrote:

I want to use data from wikipedia.
Yeah, Support
We can change old projects too.
badatprogrammingibe
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

CosmicBunBun wrote:

You already can, since Wikipedia and it's commons operate under CC0 already. In fact, you can use just about any image as long as credit is given, as Scratch is educational and is protected by Creative Commons already.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reusing_Wikipedia_content
CosmicBunBun
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0



According to the Creative Commons license, you're free to reshare the data, you just have to let everybody know if changes were made and where you got it. I see no reason to change pure data.

Last edited by CosmicBunBun (April 7, 2018 03:11:10)

Jonathan50
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

CosmicBunBun wrote:

http://i.cubeupload.com/rsFfi5.png

According to the Creative Commons license, you're free to reshare the data, you just have to let everybody know if changes were made and where you got it. I see no reason to change pure data.
Look at the “ShareAlike” part…
TonyBrown148
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

When I am reading the Terms of Use (which can be found at the bottom of the page), I notice that Scratch is still using CC BY-SA 2.0, which means that:
It is illegal to use contents from Wikipedia and the Scratch Wiki on Scratch!
Because Wikipedia is using CC BY-SA 3.0 and the Scratch wiki is using the 4.0 version, which is incompatible with the 2.0 version.

To make using Wikipedia and Scratch Wiki contents legal, I suggest updating the license to CC BY-SA 4.0, because:
1. It does not obey the purpose of using CC BY-SA 2.0
2. It makes using Wikipedia and Scratch Wiki contents legal.
3. The 4.0 version is the newest version, which might contain less loopholes.

If you want to know why it is illegal, click here.

UPD 1: There was a survey here, but I deleted it.

Last edited by TonyBrown148 (May 7, 2020 03:56:13)

R4356th
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

Could you remove the survey part? It is a discussion forum not a survey form.
TonyBrown148
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

R4356th wrote:

Could you remove the survey part? It is a discussion forum not a survey form.
Deleted, but what do you think of the license update?
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

Is this a reference to:

3.7 You agree not to post links to any content outside of the Scratch website, if to do so would violate any part of the Terms of Use.

Recently, I've been told that as long as the content is acceptable, you're allowed to post links outside of the Scratch website. I support changing that, as it causes constant breaking of the Terms of Use.

Scratch Wiki would be an example of a link with acceptable content. If not, the Scratch Team would be breaking their own rules to place a link to Scratch Wiki on the bottom of the page.
Maximouse
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

Is this a reference to:

3.7 You agree not to post links to any content outside of the Scratch website, if to do so would violate any part of the Terms of Use.

Recently, I've been told that as long as the content is acceptable, you're allowed to post links outside of the Scratch website. I support changing that, as it causes constant breaking of the Terms of Use.

Scratch Wiki would be an example of a link with acceptable content. If not, the Scratch Team would be breaking their own rules to place a link to Scratch Wiki on the bottom of the page.
No, it's about this:

Terms of Use wrote:

4.3 All user-generated content you submit to Scratch is licensed to and through Scratch under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. …
TonyBrown148
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

Maximouse wrote:

No, it's about this:

Terms of Use wrote:

4.3 All user-generated content you submit to Scratch is licensed to and through Scratch under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. …
Yes, you are right, and that makes it illegal.
TonyBrown148
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

bump
TonyBrown148
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

bump
Nambaseking01
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

Support.

I mean, there isn't much to say on this one, illegal is illegal and it needs to be fixed…

Until this gets changed, everyone please only link pages from the Scratch Wiki and Wikipedia - don't just take pieces of writing from there. We don't want the Scratch Team to get sued.

Unless the Scratch Team clears this up as incorrect information (which I am not sure about) or they change the existing license, everyone be cautious lol
TonyBrown148
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

Nambaseking01 wrote:

Support.

I mean, there isn't much to say on this one, illegal is illegal and it needs to be fixed…

Until this gets changed, everyone please only link pages from the Scratch Wiki and Wikipedia - don't just take pieces of writing from there. We don't want the Scratch Team to get sued.

Unless the Scratch Team clears this up as incorrect information (which I am not sure about) or they change the existing license, everyone be cautious lol
Yes, you are correct.
R4356th
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

Support because I believe legal issues should always be fixed before others.
TonyBrown148
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

bump
badatprogrammingibe
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

Hello there!
I've noticed that this suggestion is in some way a duplicate of this suggestion posted a while back.
However, it is slightly different, though I think it would be best to keep all discussion in one place as their only difference is very tiny.

The decision is yours to make.
TonyBrown148
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Change license *for new projects* to CC-BY-SA 3.0

badatprogrammingibe wrote:

Hello there!
I've noticed that this suggestion is in some way a duplicate of this suggestion posted a while back.
However, it is slightly different, though I think it would be best to keep all discussion in one place as their only difference is very tiny.

The decision is yours to make.
It seems like mine gets more attention than yours, so I will not be closing it.

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