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RosyStar
Scratcher
10 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

MClovers wrote:

Wow. Just wow. I'm not trying to be rude but it's the truth.
You guys remove everything for no reason.
There's a perfectly good reason: saftey.

RosyStar
Scratcher
10 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

will803 wrote:

RosyStar wrote:

That's unfair. I have scratchmoji and isonline and i might not be able to use them anymore (
U can still use them (I have them to along with Master Scratch Userscript and I am Supa Sad now)
yeh a know that. I've already had many replies
RosyStar
Scratcher
10 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

Carriage wrote:

DON’T GIVE MY SIDE ACCOUNT AN ALERT! I lost its password…

JUST WHATEVER YOU DO DON’T TOUCH MY SIDE ACCOUNT!!

I’m sorry for advertising browser extensions I didn’t realise and I lost its password… please… ST help me………………




PLEASE NO ALERTS! PLEASE!!!!!
It's not an alert for doing something bad, its just an alert to tell you about this
m1ghty_boy
Scratcher
60 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

World_Languages wrote:

Ok. I'll take a breath and actually implement that in my mind (this is a big change to my Scratch habits) and then I'll see what I'll do with isOnline. Thinking of deleting it from the store would be a good first approach, I guess.

I think they should verify extensions by looking through the source code and/or test it, and disable ones that have not been verified yet or rejected.
NitroCipher
Scratcher
500+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

m1ghty_boy wrote:

World_Languages wrote:

Ok. I'll take a breath and actually implement that in my mind (this is a big change to my Scratch habits) and then I'll see what I'll do with isOnline. Thinking of deleting it from the store would be a good first approach, I guess.

I think they should verify extensions by looking through the source code and/or test it, and disable ones that have not been verified yet or rejected.
You can find an open topic about this here: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/topic/284391/
Mateuszlewandowski
Scratcher
96 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

scratcherjack9000 wrote:

You made all isOnline users lose there crowns. Ouch.

Still
_EIektron_
New Scratcher
17 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

I understand that the Scratch Team wants extensions not being used for safety reasons. However, what if they were open source? You could see their code, if you don't like what they are doing it is all up to you to decide if you want to have the extension or not. I simply believe extensions make a website better.
290Scratcher
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

acduckii_rises wrote:

rip the ST never lets the community have a say on things like this
Well we'll have to deal with it. Once something is changed, it's not being changed back. We've learnt our lesson from the discuss button.
Slugasaurus
Scratcher
34 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

This doesn’t really affect me since I don’t use iO anymore…

but…

Are we still allowed to mention them? Like “You should get isOnline!” but not actually having a link to download. Or “ScratchMoji is awesome!” Is that allowed? Also, what about the iO crown? What’ll happen to that?

Why ban isOnlineV2 as well? In case the ST didn’t realise it was also the iO Q&A page, tips page, and tutorial page. iO cannot continue without the Q&A page!
Mateuszlewandowski
Scratcher
96 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

Slugasaurus wrote:

This doesn’t really affect me since I don’t use iO anymore…

but…

Are we still allowed to mention them? Like “You should get isOnline!” but not actually having a link to download. Or “ScratchMoji is awesome!” Is that allowed? Also, what about the iO crown? What’ll happen to that?

Why ban isOnlineV2 as well? In case the ST didn’t realise it was also the iO Q&A page, tips page, and tutorial page. iO cannot continue without the Q&A page!

I will remove isOnline from my computer
aking_
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

Thank you for this actually. I honestly have the same mindset as the ST about this, these kinds of things are too sketchy for me, and all the advertising about “IsOnline” has grown old.

Last edited by aking_ (Dec. 1, 2017 20:29:35)

--Waterfall--
Scratcher
500+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

_EIektron_ wrote:

I understand that the Scratch Team wants extensions not being used for safety reasons. However, what if they were open source? You could see their code, if you don't like what they are doing it is all up to you to decide if you want to have the extension or not. I simply believe extensions make a website better.
Yes, I agree
AmazingMech2418
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

_EIektron_ wrote:

I understand that the Scratch Team wants extensions not being used for safety reasons. However, what if they were open source? You could see their code, if you don't like what they are doing it is all up to you to decide if you want to have the extension or not. I simply believe extensions make a website better.
I agree! That's why I say there should be a filter-bot. Maybe the code could be something like this:
var allowedExtensions = [];
function checkExt(name,codesite,downloadsite) {
var datavar;
$.get(codesite,function(data,status){datavar=data;});
// a code idea for code-based filters
if (datavar.search("a dangerous possible code goes here...")===-1) {
// other filters like this would go inside here and the following code would go inside all of them
var website;
$.get("view-source:"+downloadsite,function(data,status){website=data;});
if(website.search(codesite)!==-1) {
allowedExtensions.push(name);
}
}
}

This code should work but may not. If not, just a few changes would be needed. There could then be an auto-moderator that checks to see if the names or websites of the extensions appear and if they aren't in the allowedExtensions array, they will be replaced with the “**” that is used by manual extension moderators now.

Last edited by AmazingMech2418 (Dec. 1, 2017 21:01:50)

--Waterfall--
Scratcher
500+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

AmazingMech2418 wrote:

_EIektron_ wrote:

I understand that the Scratch Team wants extensions not being used for safety reasons. However, what if they were open source? You could see their code, if you don't like what they are doing it is all up to you to decide if you want to have the extension or not. I simply believe extensions make a website better.
I agree! That's why I say there should be a filter-bot. Maybe the code could be something like this:
var allowedExtensions = [];
function checkExt(name,codesite,downloadsite) {
var datavar;
$.get(codesite,function(data,status){datavar=data;});
// a code idea for code-based filters
if (datavar.search("a dangerous possible code goes here...")===-1) {
// other filters like this would go inside here and the following code would go inside all of them
var website;
$.get(downloadsite,function(data,status){website=data;});
if(website.search(codesite)!==-1) {
allowedExtensions.push(name);
}
}
}

This code should work but may not. If not, just a few changes would be needed. There could then be an auto-moderator that checks to see if the names or websites of the extensions appear and if they aren't in the allowedExtensions array, they will be replaced with the “**” that is used by manual extension moderators now.
Yes, that would be cool. An auto-moderator that checks that and monitors would be a better solution.
AmazingMech2418
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

--Waterfall-- wrote:

AmazingMech2418 wrote:

_EIektron_ wrote:

I understand that the Scratch Team wants extensions not being used for safety reasons. However, what if they were open source? You could see their code, if you don't like what they are doing it is all up to you to decide if you want to have the extension or not. I simply believe extensions make a website better.
I agree! That's why I say there should be a filter-bot. Maybe the code could be something like this:
var allowedExtensions = [];
function checkExt(name,codesite,downloadsite) {
var datavar;
$.get(codesite,function(data,status){datavar=data;});
// a code idea for code-based filters
if (datavar.search("a dangerous possible code goes here...")===-1) {
// other filters like this would go inside here and the following code would go inside all of them
var website;
$.get(downloadsite,function(data,status){website=data;});
if(website.search(codesite)!==-1) {
allowedExtensions.push(name);
}
}
}

This code should work but may not. If not, just a few changes would be needed. There could then be an auto-moderator that checks to see if the names or websites of the extensions appear and if they aren't in the allowedExtensions array, they will be replaced with the “**” that is used by manual extension moderators now.
Yes, that would be cool. An auto-moderator that checks that and monitors would be a better solution.
Thank you. Also, if anyone sees this, this was replied to before the latest code fix.
KarateToast
Scratcher
32 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

What? I don't get involved with this stuff a lot. But they removed my deleted project that was unshared? How does that work?…It's deleted…And…they removed it? What?
ceebee
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

KarateToast wrote:

What? I don't get involved with this stuff a lot. But they removed my deleted project that was unshared? How does that work?…It's deleted…And…they removed it? What?
This was probably done by mistake. Just send a message to Contact Us about it and we'll take a look
-stache-
Scratcher
500+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

aking_ wrote:

Thank you for this actually. I honestly have the same mindset as the ST about this, these kinds of things are too sketchy for me, and all the advertising about “IsOnline” has grown old.
You can see the source if you're worried tho (and it asks for specific permissions as do all extensions).
-stache-
Scratcher
500+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

--Waterfall-- wrote:

acduckii_rises wrote:

rip the ST never lets the community have a say on things like this
I really do think everyone should stop ranting about this. The ST has already decided, so trying to change it is futile.
What about debate though? I to engage in a debate with ceebee lol.
aking_
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

-stache- wrote:

You can see the source if you're worried tho (and it asks for specific permissions as do all extensions).
Still got paranoia about these downloadable things tho.. if I don't really think that they are worth using than I won't take a chance on downloading them.

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