The Ultimate Scratch 3.0 Block Style Protest Megathread

jordan1060

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jordan1060

Sigton wrote:
So much hate. I think they're not so bad, honestly the extra padding isn't really affecting me.

Sigton

i agree

jromagnoli

jordan1060 wrote:
Sigton wrote:
So much hate. I think they're not so bad, honestly the extra padding isn't really affecting me.

Sigton
i agree

Then why did you bump it? There's just gonna be more hate.

stickfiregames

Events and control have already been mentioned, but I've just noticed how similar operators and pen look too, at least to me. I think we could do with keeping most block colours as they are, although this topic suggests we should change the blues and purples a bit.

stickfiregames

Here are some more thoughts on colours. From left to right are the 3.0 colours, 2.0 colours and my mockup of how the colours could look better.

These are the main difference I can see in 3.0:

events and control are very similar, and they have swapped so that events is brighter
pen and operators are somewhat similar, as are data and control
all data blocks are the same colour, there is no difference between variables and lists
motion and looks are a bit more different, this might help with the colour-blindness issues I linked in the previous post
motion is as light as sensing, but sensing has a slight greenish tint
custom blocks are pink. This is probably the one most people notice and hate the most, although it isn't likely to cause confusion as the other ones might, it's just resistance to change really.
custom arguments are the same colour as custom blocks. I don't mind this, in fact I didn't even notice they were different in 2.0 for several months.

On the right, most of the blocks are the same as in 2.0. I've made looks brighter to try and distinguish it from motion (again, see the topic I linked), and sound more pinkish to distinguish it from looks. I've also tried to do the flat style of 3.0 that NitroCipher suggested. It's a bit rough around the edges (literally) because I just tweaked the scratchblocks code a bit, but it shows how they might look at normal zoom.

Last edited by stickfiregames (April 3, 2017 12:36:35)

WolfCat67

stickfiregames wrote:

I didn't think the NitroBlocks could get better, yet there they are! I love the design of the ones on the right.

The thing about Scratch 3.0 blocks that I don't like is that orange seems overused, and seems to clash with practically every background type in my opinion. Just look at what's orange: Control, Events, Variables, and Lists. All block types that we use all the time! It hurts my eyes to look at. The ones on the right of this post are perfect.

Last edited by WolfCat67 (April 5, 2017 00:12:27)

Greenduck54

Austinato wrote:
HashBrown_Studios wrote:
I agree, the new blocks are rather ugly… and I just don't think they should change them for 3.0
Alright,

HashBrown_Studios wrote:
Also, the if colour block is changed horribly!
Now you only have a set amount of colours to use!
It's probably still in development, and those are just basic colors.

HashBrown_Studios wrote:
And, just to end my mini-rant, even though it was this way in 1.4, the right Screen will really bug me as it's not on the left as I'm used to now xP
I kind of think it'll be something easy to adapt to. Or, if it isn't, there should be an option to switch between left-side or right-side stages.

Exactly! I started with 2.0 and I like the stage on the right side, i'm just used to it on the right so that'll be annoying (one of my few complaints about 3.0(including the padding and lack of speed/tempo/pitch in the sound effects))

NitroCipher

WolfCat67 wrote:
stickfiregames wrote:

I didn't think the NitroBlocks could get better, yet there they are! I love the design of the ones on the right.

The thing about Scratch 3.0 blocks that I don't like is that orange seems overused, and seems to clash with the dark blue background in my opinion. Just look at what's orange: Control, Events, Variables, and Lists. All block types that we use all the time! It hurts my eyes to look at. The ones on the right of this post are perfect.

I think that the text input box borders should either acquire a darker version of the block it is is, or have a much darker grey, as it is currently hard to look at. Scratch 3.0 will not have a blue background. That is only present in the vm, not the gui

Pezd

Maybe you could just have it so when you zoom out, the text doesn't get smaller until it can't fit inside the block. I think that would work for both people who want padding and people who don't.

stickfiregames

NitroCipher wrote:
I think that the text input box borders should either acquire a darker version of the block it is is, or have a much darker grey, as it is currently hard to look at.

A darker version of the block would be best, I just couldn't work out how to do it.

I also posted this on the colourblindness topic, it has more contrast than default:

WolfCat67

stickfiregames wrote:
NitroCipher wrote:
I think that the text input box borders should either acquire a darker version of the block it is is, or have a much darker grey, as it is currently hard to look at.
A darker version of the block would be best, I just couldn't work out how to do it.

I also posted this on the colourblindness topic, it has more contrast than default:

Ouch, R.I.P. eyes.
You see, the contrast is good for colourblind people (I guess), but for me the contrast is too great and the colours are too bright, making my eyes hurt.

stickfiregames

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Last edited by stickfiregames (April 5, 2017 16:25:23)

Ceo_

stickfiregames wrote:
Some of you have probably already seen this, but the 3.0 demo is now using the 2.0 colours so it looks like they won't change after all.

Nop, this was a “fake”

check the Scratch 3.0 topic, it was a userscript

titanscratch

Bump.

Sigton

The 3.0 blocks are actually pretty pretty…

Sigton

PintOfMilk

Sigton wrote:
The 3.0 blocks are actually pretty pretty… Horrible

Sigton

Sigton

PintOfMilk wrote:
Sigton wrote:
The 3.0 blocks are actually pretty pretty… Horrible

Sigton

Hey most people don't actually realise it's against the rules to misquote others

And is it just because they're a bit taller that you don't like them?

Sigton

Last edited by Sigton (April 8, 2017 12:27:46)

jordan1060

Sigton wrote:
PintOfMilk wrote:
Sigton wrote:
The 3.0 blocks are actually pretty pretty… Horrible

Sigton
Hey most people don't actually realise it's against the rules to misquote others
And is it just because they're a bit taller that you don't like them?

Sigton

I thought you said pretty and i'm like WHAT!!!!

WolfCat67

Sigton wrote:
The 3.0 blocks are actually pretty pretty…

They may look pretty to some, but I think the extra padding is a bit ridiculous. Sure, it may not effect me too much, but I can see peoples' points, and it'll make me feel like I have less room to mess around with in Scratch.
For me, the colours look a little bit too similar to each other. Events and control are almost the exact same and indistinguishable from each other, and variables and lists are literally the exact same colour. I don't like the look of pink on custom blocks; though that may just be my opinion.

I do, however, like the more round-ish look of the editor.

jordan1060

WolfCat67 wrote:
Sigton wrote:
The 3.0 blocks are actually pretty pretty…
They may look pretty to some, but I think the extra padding is a bit ridiculous. Sure, it may not effect me too much, but I can see peoples' points, and it'll make me feel like I have less room to mess around with in Scratch.
For me, the colours look a little bit too similar to each other. Events and control are almost the exact same and indistinguishable from each other, and variables and lists are literally the exact same colour. I don't like the look of pink on custom blocks; though that may just be my opinion.

I do, however, like the more round-ish look of the editor.

I agree

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