Magnie wrote:

Harakou wrote:

Disregarding the payed extras idea, does anyone else think that multiple editors isn't the way to go anyway? What benefit is there? It would be a ton of extra work and a maintainability nightmare.

While we're +1ing things, I +1 this.

Maintaining multiple projects is very painful. The only reason you would do that is to allow multiple devices to run it and the Scratch Team said they'll be moving to HTML5 eventually which should allow all common devices (mobile, laptop, desktop, maybe even TVs) to run it.

True. +1 And I think once the HTML5 editor comes out, they should get rid of the Flash one. It makes more sense to only have one editor, and some people want have to use ipads, etc. to access Scratch. I have a friend who only has access to an ipad so he can't use scratch (actually I let him use my computer every time he's over at my house ) so HTML5 is more ideal to keep than Flash.

I hope that buy thing never comes true!

Scratch is an meant to be educational, not commercial. For example, check out Story Bird. I was pretty annoyed by the features we should pay, which means Story Bird is commercial. Because we should pay, I was really annoyed and quit StoryBird. If I should pay Scratch, trust me, I WOULD QUIT NOW. If Scratch turns to be commercial, it would rob the fun out of Scratch. And in my opinion, Scratch's quality will drop, if they take moneys. T_T

I don't think that Scratch should start charging – it would be a really bad idea. BUT:

What I see on this thread is a little confusing. Should we assume that good things have to be free, and if you have to pay for things they are inherently bad? That's what a few people on here seem to be saying. Should programmers and developers work long hours to build something and not get paid for it?

Think about this – if the folks working on the Scratch engine were getting paid to do it, and not having to work other jobs to be able to do things like eat and buy things like clothing and gasoline, maybe we'd have cloud lists by now. Maybe that HTML5 player would be released. Maybe we'd have something here that would rival Snap!

Scratch is educational, and the people involved are doing it altruistically. That's a good thing. That's an important thing, and it shouldn't change. But we also shouldn't assume that people who are doing something and expecting to get paid for it are somehow evil or dishonest.

wkelly42 wrote:

I don't think that Scratch should start charging – it would be a really bad idea. BUT:

What I see on this thread is a little confusing. Should we assume that good things have to be free, and if you have to pay for things they are inherently bad? That's what a few people on here seem to be saying. Should programmers and developers work long hours to build something and not get paid for it?

Think about this – if the folks working on the Scratch engine were getting paid to do it, and not having to work other jobs to be able to do things like eat and buy things like clothing and gasoline, maybe we'd have cloud lists by now. Maybe that HTML5 player would be released. Maybe we'd have something here that would rival Snap!

Scratch is educational, and the people involved are doing it altruistically. That's a good thing. That's an important thing, and it shouldn't change. But we also shouldn't assume that people who are doing something and expecting to get paid for it are somehow evil or dishonest.

They are. It's their job (I think) It's from the MIT Media Lab, and MIT provides their funding (i.e. server, food, house, clothes xD)

I really don't support Live Help Chat either. It… could have some moderations problems.

You can't have the Scratchteam make money out of any person joining, any project made, anything! You can't make Scratch a commercial website! Grow up!

If you want to give them money, click dat Donate link down there in the footer ↓

scratchisthebest wrote:

If you want to give them money, click dat Donate link down there in the footer ↓

+Infinity

Rumanti wrote:

scratchisthebest wrote:

If you want to give them money, click dat Donate link down there in the footer ↓

+Infinity

+Infinity

davidkt wrote:

Rumanti wrote:

scratchisthebest wrote:

If you want to give them money, click dat Donate link down there in the footer ↓

+Infinity

+Infinity

+#1.INF
+NaN

DigiTechs wrote:

davidkt wrote:

Rumanti wrote:

scratchisthebest wrote:

If you want to give them money, click dat Donate link down there in the footer ↓

+Infinity

+Infinity

+#1.INF
+NaN

Or, click here.

davidkt wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

davidkt wrote:

Rumanti wrote:

scratchisthebest wrote:

If you want to give them money, click dat Donate link down there in the footer ↓

+Infinity

+Infinity

+#1.INF
+NaN

Or, click here.

how do I know that paypal link will not go to you or your cat



how about instead of +Infinity we use +$1

scratchisthebest wrote:

davidkt wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

davidkt wrote:

Rumanti wrote:

scratchisthebest wrote:

If you want to give them money, click dat Donate link down there in the footer ↓

+Infinity

+Infinity

+#1.INF
+NaN

Or, click here.

how do I know that paypal link will not go to you or your cat



how about instead of +Infinity we use +$1

Heyyy! I don't have $1!

davidkt wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

davidkt wrote:

Rumanti wrote:

scratchisthebest wrote:

If you want to give them money, click dat Donate link down there in the footer ↓

+Infinity

+Infinity

+#1.INF
+NaN

Or, click here.

Nice try. Don't worry, it's blocked here

DigiTechs wrote:

Nice try. Don't worry, it's blocked here

What did you mean…

firedrake969_test wrote:

wkelly42 wrote:

(snip)
Scratch is educational, and the people involved are doing it altruistically. That's a good thing. That's an important thing, and it shouldn't change. But we also shouldn't assume that people who are doing something and expecting to get paid for it are somehow evil or dishonest.

They are. It's their job (I think) It's from the MIT Media Lab, and MIT provides their funding (i.e. server, food, house, clothes xD)

I really don't support Live Help Chat either. It… could have some moderations problems.

I heard somewhere that some US Society donate Scratch, or power Scratch, whatever that is.

Rumanti wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

Nice try. Don't worry, it's blocked here

What did you mean…

I was browsing Scratch at school and Paypal is blocked at my school. That's why I said nice try.

davidkt wrote:

bharvey wrote:

Check out tynker.com

They pretty much copied Scratch!
Edit: except it's not free.

Don't you think It's more of an online, barely modified, Scratch mod?

DigiTechs wrote:

Rumanti wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

Nice try. Don't worry, it's blocked here

What did you mean…

I was browsing Scratch at school and Paypal is blocked at my school. That's why I said nice try.

Ooohhh

I like these ideas, but new users will be very confused over the differences between a Java, Flash, and HTML editor.

Scratch is not-for-profit BTW, and MIT probably makes enough anyway. I am not paying 50c for a Scratch viewer. (That is in USD, right? If so, that's about 66c AUD for me.)