Discuss Scratch
![[RSS Feed]](http://mv-ezproxy-com.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/scratchr2/static/__35b9adb704d6d778f00a893a1b104339__//djangobb_forum/img/feed-icon-small.png "[RSS Feed]"){kind=icon}
- PhirripSyrrip
-
Scratcher
500+ posts
change * to ×
No support, as other programming languages use those symbols.With this argument, this block:
…Besides, they can try and figure it out on their own.
(() mod ())Should be replaced with
(() / / ())//category=operators
EDIT: Actually, maybe not as I think there are more than one ways of doing this, I think one involves the % sign?
Last edited by PhirripSyrrip (Dec. 29, 2013 18:40:50)
- AonymousGuy
-
Scratcher
1000+ posts
change * to ×
Wow… soon this topic is going to turn into the second AE argument.
I'm just saying.
I'm going to go check the statistics page:
Hmm, a large majority of users are between 12 and 14, and they should all know about this.
Yes, I know, people lie about their age sometimes.
I'm just saying.
I'm going to go check the statistics page:
Hmm, a large majority of users are between 12 and 14, and they should all know about this.
Yes, I know, people lie about their age sometimes.
- ProdigyZeta7
-
Scratcher
1000+ posts
change * to ×
Wait, I'm sure there's another x symbol… ×
There we go.
There we go.
- Zambonifofex
-
Scratcher
100+ posts
change * to ×
Wait, I'm sure there's another x symbol… ×Hm… Pretty! What is the alt code?
There we go.
- frodewin
-
Scratcher
500+ posts
change * to ×
I think the “x” and the “÷” are more intuitive to kids
The “÷” is not intuitive to German speaking kids. They are used to “:” and a central dot for multiplication.
Therefore, I suggest keeping the “*” and “/” as a transnational common programming symbol.
- davidkt
-
Scratcher
1000+ posts
change * to ×
When I was 8, I figured this out by myself, as the * and / are right below the + and -. No support. This is programming. It should be obvious to anyone.
Besides, what if M30W comes out and everyone starts using that? It's king of tedious to type the ÷ symbol, and x could be used for a variable.
Besides, what if M30W comes out and everyone starts using that? It's king of tedious to type the ÷ symbol, and x could be used for a variable.
- DotDash
-
Scratcher
1000+ posts
change * to ×
On mac its Alt + /I didn't knew there was a “÷” symbol. Interesting… xDOn Windows, it's Alt + 246.
÷
- Zambonifofex
-
Scratcher
100+ posts
change * to ×
well, there is are things called “translations”. You can have “/” and “×” in the english languge, and “:” and the dot in german.I think the “x” and the “÷” are more intuitive to kids
The “÷” is not intuitive to German speaking kids. They are used to “:” and a central dot for multiplication.
Therefore, I suggest keeping the “*” and “/” as a transnational common programming symbol.
When I was 8, I figured this out by myself, as the * and / are right below the + and -. No support. This is programming. It should be obvious to anyone.Hm…
Besides, what if M30W comes out and everyone starts using that? It's king of tedious to type the ÷ symbol, and x could be used for a variable.
Last edited by Zambonifofex (Dec. 30, 2013 16:48:31)
- k9lego
-
Scratcher
1000+ posts
change * to ×
I say if you're a young kid; just ask your parents what that means. 
k9lego.
k9lego.Last edited by k9lego (Dec. 30, 2013 00:01:13)
- PhirripSyrrip
-
Scratcher
500+ posts
change * to ×
That's a very good point. It's the same in Polish.I think the “x” and the “÷” are more intuitive to kids
The “÷” is not intuitive to German speaking kids. They are used to “:” and a central dot for multiplication.
Therefore, I suggest keeping the “*” and “/” as a transnational common programming symbol.
- picopaper
-
Scratcher
500+ posts
change * to ×
Why not just have some little check-box or slider letting you decide which you prefer? You could make the x & ÷ default to avoid younger-kid confusion, then give more experienced programmers the option to switch to * & \ blocks.
Last edited by picopaper (Dec. 30, 2013 00:19:10)
- Zambonifofex
-
Scratcher
100+ posts
change * to ×
Why not just have some little check-box or slider letting you decide which you prefer? You could make the x & ÷ default to avoid younger-kid confusion, then give more experienced programmers the option to switch to * & \ blocks.That's way too simple to deserve a checkbox just for it…
- ProdigyZeta7
-
Scratcher
1000+ posts
change * to ×
Took me a while to find it, but Alt + 0215.Wait, I'm sure there's another x symbol… ×Hm… Pretty! What is the alt code?
There we go.
Testing… × Yep.
- elliebelly121100
-
Scratcher
61 posts
change * to ×
I agree abut the issue with x being the algebra symbol for variable, but usually, when used in algebra, it's italicized. Maybe changing it to the x wouldn't be such a bad idea.
Also, in my math textbook, they use a dot: • like that to do multiplication. so instead of
1 x 2 = 2 or 1 * 2 = 2 they do 1 • 2 = 2
So it might not be as confusing as you think!
- @elliebelly121100
Also, in my math textbook, they use a dot: • like that to do multiplication. so instead of
1 x 2 = 2 or 1 * 2 = 2 they do 1 • 2 = 2
So it might not be as confusing as you think!
- @elliebelly121100
- PhirripSyrrip
-
Scratcher
500+ posts
change * to ×
Just had another thought: if it were changed from * and / then then the language selection could decide whether it becomes × and ÷ in English and other countries that use these signs, but for German, Polish and other languages, they would become · and :That's a very good point. It's the same in Polish.I think the “x” and the “÷” are more intuitive to kids
The “÷” is not intuitive to German speaking kids. They are used to “:” and a central dot for multiplication.
Therefore, I suggest keeping the “*” and “/” as a transnational common programming symbol.
- Zambonifofex
-
Scratcher
100+ posts
change * to ×
That's exactly what i've said, but no one cares about me =PJust had another thought: if it were changed from * and / then then the language selection could decide whether it becomes × and ÷ in English and other countries that use these signs, but for German, Polish and other languages, they would become · and :That's a very good point. It's the same in Polish.I think the “x” and the “÷” are more intuitive to kids
The “÷” is not intuitive to German speaking kids. They are used to “:” and a central dot for multiplication.
Therefore, I suggest keeping the “*” and “/” as a transnational common programming symbol.
The “÷” is not intuitive to German speaking kids. They are used to “:” and a central dot for multiplication.well, there is are things called “translations”. You can have “/” and “×” in the english languge, and “:” and the dot in german.
Therefore, I suggest keeping the “*” and “/” as a transnational common programming symbol.
Last edited by Zambonifofex (Dec. 30, 2013 16:48:58)
- turkey3_test
-
Scratcher
1000+ posts
change * to ×
I've considered this before. Support! Though personally I use the bullet point dot for multiplication.
- Firedrake969
-
Scratcher
1000+ posts
change * to ×
No support. In later math (and even starting in fractions), division with polynomials is like
5x-4
3x+2
I'm pretty neutral about the * thing, though. So far.
5x-4
3x+2
I'm pretty neutral about the * thing, though. So far.
- mitchboy
-
Scratcher
1000+ posts
change * to ×
The multiplication symbol (×) and x (as in a variable) are slightly different. Plus, if you have two spaces separated by an x, I'm pretty sure people won't assume it's an algebraic x…
I had a 4th grader ask me last week where the multiplication operator is. I showed him, and he said that he didn't know that was the multiplication symbol.^ this
I support this.
- Zambonifofex
-
Scratcher
100+ posts
change * to ×
Are you guys seriously discussing about the fact that × is similar to an variable x? And how does those look the same, or even similar?:
(() × ()) //category=operators
(x)