c-o wrote:

NanoRook wrote:

There's this magical thing called the report button. You can report stuff with it.

Yeah but they is so many!

Which is why the ST relies on people to report things!

@Alberknyis

Contrary to your made-up country created hastily to win an argument, Britain is a real country with millions of children that make up a large portion of the Scratch and world community. Why should they or their parents' concerns be left out of the moderation process?

Violence and threatening or abusive language should be censored, even though you presume most of us have had some sort of experience with it. Why should a four year old be exposed to images of brutality just because a 14 year old has probably had experience viewing it? Also, I'm willing to bet that a project about shock, anxiety, and depression would not be censored on Scratch. If you've had one censored, it's probably because of something else, like the way you handled it.

Firedrake969 wrote:

c-o wrote:

NanoRook wrote:

There's this magical thing called the report button. You can report stuff with it.

Yeah but they is so many!

Which is why the ST relies on people to report things!

^^

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

I think the OP wants Scratch Team to create limits on content for projects.

Just report the projects you think are inappropriate. That way, the ST can get to the project immediately.

Also, in my opinion, kissing is okay as long as no French kissing is involved.

Yes.

i've actually seen some french kissing in doctor who though, which is meant to be all-family sci fi

Most of these are already reportable on Scratch, and general killing in games (shooting characters without excessive detail or gore) is allowed - and should not be limited on, unless in extreme cases.

I also agree with this but it depends on what kind of kissing:

CodingKyle123 wrote:

No Support.

And to consider kissing sexual is morally wrong. Kids see their parents kiss every day! Whether it be at the dinner table or a kiss good-bye. This world has become too soft.

Thank you for reading,
Austinato

Considering that Scratch is intended for all ages, I'm pretty sure that everything shared here should fall under the “U” category.

Virtually all the things you've listed on the first post aren't allowed on Scratch - and some of them aren't allowed even if they were “mild”. I can tell you for sure that the Scratch Team is working really hard to enforce that. However, they can't do it if we don't do our part. That part is clicking report next to whatever does not seem ok for Scratch so the Scratch Team can review it and take any necessary actions to keep Scratch appropriate for all ages.

joshuaho wrote:

Considering that Scratch is intended for all ages, I'm pretty sure that everything shared here should fall under the “U” category.

Virtually all the things you've listed on the first post aren't allowed on Scratch - and some of them aren't allowed even if they were “mild”. I can tell you for sure that the Scratch Team is working really hard to enforce that. However, they can't do it if we don't do our part. That part is clicking report next to whatever does not seem ok for Scratch so the Scratch Team can review it and take any necessary actions to keep Scratch appropriate for all ages.

Agreed. But what about slight kissing?

raspykoo wrote:

joshuaho wrote:

Considering that Scratch is intended for all ages, I'm pretty sure that everything shared here should fall under the “U” category.

Virtually all the things you've listed on the first post aren't allowed on Scratch - and some of them aren't allowed even if they were “mild”. I can tell you for sure that the Scratch Team is working really hard to enforce that. However, they can't do it if we don't do our part. That part is clicking report next to whatever does not seem ok for Scratch so the Scratch Team can review it and take any necessary actions to keep Scratch appropriate for all ages.

Agreed. But what about slight kissing?

That probably would be ok, but then there's other factors to consider. (For example, who's kissing who? And why are they kissing? Is the idea behind it inappropriate for Scratch?) To be on the safe side though, if you feel that something might not be appropriate for all ages (even if you're not sure), then would be a good idea to not include it.

birdoftheday wrote:

@Alberknyis (Referring to this post)
Contrary to your made-up country created hastily to win an argument, Britain is a real country with millions of children that make up a large portion of the Scratch and world community. Why should they or their parents' concerns be left out of the moderation process?

Population of Britain: 64.1 million
Population of Earth: 7.125 billion
Britain makes up 0.9% of the world. And that's all of them. I already answered your question here with my made up country created hastily to win an argument. Also, check out my line just before I start talking about drug censoring.

birdoftheday wrote:

Violence and threatening or abusive language should be censored, even though you presume most of us have had some sort of experience with it. Why should a four year old be exposed to images of brutality just because a 14 year old has probably had experience viewing it?

Instead of Scratch projects, consider movies. Why should a four year old be exposed to a brutal scene in a film just because a 14 year old has probably had experience viewing it? Obvious answer: They shouldn't. Doesn't mean we have to take the entirety of Scratch to the benchmark of four year olds. This is what About Scratch says about Scratch:
“Scratch is designed especially for ages 8 to 16”
Notice how it says “especially”, not “solely”. And also notice how the lower bound is 8, not 4. Where did you get 4? So, I guess I'm saying all these words just sum up to say yeah, I'm perfectly okay with stuff for 14 year olds mixing with stuff for 4 8 year olds. Most of them can read; Scratchers can just make an age disclaimer on their projects. It doesn't really prevent anyone from mixing with anything really, and I mean, that's horrendous. Scratch should learn how to keep 4 year olds from looking at something designed for a 14 year old, just like the rest of the internet.

duplicate sorry

https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/statistics/ shows all my questions 11% of scratcher are from the UK - lowest record age range is 4 so I base most on that

Why should a four year old be exposed to a brutal scene in a film just because a 14 year old has probably had experience viewing it? Obvious answer: They shouldn't. In the UK it's a parent's choice to let them see a film ‘til they’re 18.

Scratch should learn how to keep 4 year olds from looking at something designed for a 14 year old, just like the rest of the internet. How big is FNAF? -It's huge- By the way that was rhetorical lol.

Anyway you're forgetting that a lot of gaming projects have inappropriate music in all about the bass - unclean they are also a lot of other innapropiate music - can't list them here
Scratch should learn how to keep 4 year olds from looking at something designed for a 14 year old, just like the rest of the internet. There are horror studios let's start banning them and all the projects. And we need to educate

joshuaho wrote:

raspykoo wrote:

joshuaho wrote:

Considering that Scratch is intended for all ages, I'm pretty sure that everything shared here should fall under the “U” category.

Virtually all the things you've listed on the first post aren't allowed on Scratch - and some of them aren't allowed even if they were “mild”. I can tell you for sure that the Scratch Team is working really hard to enforce that. However, they can't do it if we don't do our part. That part is clicking report next to whatever does not seem ok for Scratch so the Scratch Team can review it and take any necessary actions to keep Scratch appropriate for all ages.

Agreed. But what about slight kissing?

That probably would be ok, but then there's other factors to consider. (For example, who's kissing who? And why are they kissing? Is the idea behind it inappropriate for Scratch?) To be on the safe side though, if you feel that something might not be appropriate for all ages (even if you're not sure), then would be a good idea to not include it.

U is a good outline. look at this extensive list that's around 2% of scratch users luckily scratch doesn't support anti-gay laws taken from the community guildines; Scratch welcomes people of all ages, races, ethnicities, religions, sexual orientations, and gender identities. :)

c-o wrote:

https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/statistics/ shows all my questions 11% of scratcher are from the UK - lowest record age range is 4 so I base most on that

Why should a four year old be exposed to a brutal scene in a film just because a 14 year old has probably had experience viewing it? Obvious answer: They shouldn't. In the UK it's a parent's choice to let them see a film ‘til they’re 18.

Scratch should learn how to keep 4 year olds from looking at something designed for a 14 year old, just like the rest of the internet. How big is FNAF? -It's huge- By the way that was rhetorical lol.

Anyway you're forgetting that a lot of gaming projects have inappropriate music in all about the bass - unclean they are also a lot of other innapropiate music - can't list them here
Scratch should learn how to keep 4 year olds from looking at something designed for a 14 year old, just like the rest of the internet. There are horror studios let's start banning them and all the projects. And we need to educate

Yes - 4 year olds should never be subject to anything that's not suitable for them.

Right now, horror projects, gaming projects with inappropriate music are banned (along with anything that's not ok for all ages). If you find a project like that on the website, its very likely that nobody's reported it yet. So please click report whenever you see them to let the Scratch Team know about it. (You don't have to actively seek out those types of projects to report unless you want to - just report anything inappropriate you come across.)

If everybody does their part in reporting content that's not ok for Scratch, it will greatly minimize the amount of inappropriate stuff on Scratch.

joshuaho wrote:

c-o wrote:

https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/statistics/ shows all my questions 11% of scratcher are from the UK - lowest record age range is 4 so I base most on that

Why should a four year old be exposed to a brutal scene in a film just because a 14 year old has probably had experience viewing it? Obvious answer: They shouldn't. In the UK it's a parent's choice to let them see a film ‘til they’re 18.

Scratch should learn how to keep 4 year olds from looking at something designed for a 14 year old, just like the rest of the internet. How big is FNAF? -It's huge- By the way that was rhetorical lol.

Anyway you're forgetting that a lot of gaming projects have inappropriate music in all about the bass - unclean they are also a lot of other innapropiate music - can't list them here
Scratch should learn how to keep 4 year olds from looking at something designed for a 14 year old, just like the rest of the internet. There are horror studios let's start banning them and all the projects. And we need to educate

Yes - 4 year olds should never be subject to anything that's not suitable for them.

Right now, horror projects, gaming projects with inappropriate music are banned (along with anything that's not ok for all ages). If you find a project like that on the website, its very likely that nobody's reported it yet. So please click report whenever you see them to let the Scratch Team know about it. (You don't have to actively seek out those types of projects to report unless you want to - just report anything inappropriate you come across.)

If everybody does their part in reporting content that's not ok for Scratch, it will greatly minimize the amount of inappropriate stuff on Scratch.

Agreed, so this ranking system is unnecessary if everybody knows to report the projects that are breaking the community guidelines.

c-o wrote:

joshuaho wrote:

raspykoo wrote:

joshuaho wrote:

Considering that Scratch is intended for all ages, I'm pretty sure that everything shared here should fall under the “U” category.

Virtually all the things you've listed on the first post aren't allowed on Scratch - and some of them aren't allowed even if they were “mild”. I can tell you for sure that the Scratch Team is working really hard to enforce that. However, they can't do it if we don't do our part. That part is clicking report next to whatever does not seem ok for Scratch so the Scratch Team can review it and take any necessary actions to keep Scratch appropriate for all ages.

Agreed. But what about slight kissing?

That probably would be ok, but then there's other factors to consider. (For example, who's kissing who? And why are they kissing? Is the idea behind it inappropriate for Scratch?) To be on the safe side though, if you feel that something might not be appropriate for all ages (even if you're not sure), then would be a good idea to not include it.

U is a good outline. look at this extensive list that's around 2% of scratch users luckily scratch doesn't support anti-gay laws taken from the community guildines; Scratch welcomes people of all ages, races, ethnicities, religions, sexual orientations, and gender identities. :)

I'd rather prefer the ESRB rating system, since the british movie/TV rating system is not for games (what about americans who don't know about this rating system, too?), and Scratch was designed to make games. However, we don't need a rating system at all since people can just report projects.

Alberknyis wrote:

Drugs part is kind of obvious.

I think you're forgetting that medicine counts as drugs. Medicines that cure illnesses. I'm not gonna get into this whole thing, that's all I'm saying.

SuperNicky wrote:

Alberknyis wrote:

Drugs part is kind of obvious.

I think you're forgetting that medicine counts as drugs. Medicines that cure illnesses. I'm not gonna get into this whole thing, that's all I'm saying.

Yes. How can a project about treating people with medicine be taken down? (unless it's about surgery operations and whatnot)

Alberknyis wrote:

birdoftheday wrote:

@Alberknyis (Referring to this post)
Contrary to your made-up country created hastily to win an argument, Britain is a real country with millions of children that make up a large portion of the Scratch and world community. Why should they or their parents' concerns be left out of the moderation process?

Population of Britain: 64.1 million
Population of Earth: 7.125 billion
Britain makes up 0.9% of the world. And that's all of them. I already answered your question here with my made up country created hastily to win an argument. Also, check out my line just before I start talking about drug censoring.

Regardless of the population of the Earth there are still many children from Britain here. Probably more than India or China. Check out this page. for more information.

birdoftheday wrote:

Violence and threatening or abusive language should be censored, even though you presume most of us have had some sort of experience with it. Why should a four year old be exposed to images of brutality just because a 14 year old has probably had experience viewing it?

Instead of Scratch projects, consider movies. Why should a four year old be exposed to a brutal scene in a film just because a 14 year old has probably had experience viewing it? Obvious answer: They shouldn't. Doesn't mean we have to take the entirety of Scratch to the benchmark of four year olds. This is what About Scratch says about Scratch:
“Scratch is designed especially for ages 8 to 16”
Notice how it says “especially”, not “solely”. And also notice how the lower bound is 8, not 4. Where did you get 4? So, I guess I'm saying all these words just sum up to say yeah, I'm perfectly okay with stuff for 14 year olds mixing with stuff for 4 8 year olds. Most of them can read; Scratchers can just make an age disclaimer on their projects. It doesn't really prevent anyone from mixing with anything really, and I mean, that's horrendous. Scratch should learn how to keep 4 year olds from looking at something designed for a 14 year old, just like the rest of the internet.

There are quite a few 4 and 5 year olds on Scratch. The difference between Scratch and your movie analogy is that while cinema has ratings from ‘for all ages’ to ‘18+ only’ Scratch aims to be less divided and only seeks to allow things appropriate for all ages on the site. While films allow division between ages and maturity, Scratch is a global community that appeals to all ages. Scratch is simply not a place for people to be posting projects with blood, gore, or violence. If people feel the need to express their ‘maturity’ through Scratch, they should do it by respecting the needs of younger users and not posting projects unsuitable for them.

SuperNicky wrote:

Alberknyis wrote:

Drugs part is kind of obvious.

I think you're forgetting that medicine counts as drugs. Medicines that cure illnesses. I'm not gonna get into this whole thing, that's all I'm saying.

I think it's pretty easy to distinguish between when medicine is being used as a drug and when it is being used properly.

No support. You can report the projects you think are inappropriate. And you don't have to go around searching for projects just so you can report them. Besides, not all horror is bad. If all horror/violence was banned on Scratch, every project with even a tiny bit of blood (aka scratches, cuts) would get banned.

And if you don't like horror, then don't view projects that are horror.

Everyone, not just on this forum, please stop looking for reasons to ban projects. That takes all the fun out of Scratch.

Thanks!

~@Thelnvoker