Fuzzbutt wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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-__- Nu. That's not what I'm saying.

Then what are you saying?

Fuzzbutt wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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1. If a project is just a test of a cat changing color, I don't think it needs overwhelming popularity. And if you think the RSP bar is beneficial to Scratch and your Scratching experience, then a What the Community is Discussing bar would be more beneficial.

What does a RSP bar have to do with a Discussion bar? Your argument only makes sense if you can prove why one is more beneficial.

I'm SAYING that the recently shared projects should be completely ignored, not other projects. Okay, newbies are learning to code, so why do others have to see THEIR learning?

Oh and, I started the whole recently shared thing, so I can tell you why. THE recently shared bar is NOT beneficial, and if you think it IS , then the discuss bar is even more beneficial than seeing other scratchers “learn”.

Exactly.

1. The Recently Shared Projects bar is filled with more than just new scratchers. Every project shared on Scratch was once in the Recently Shared Projects bar. If you looked every once in a while, you'd be suprised what you would find.
2. You have yet to explain why it is less beneficial than the discuss bar, or the relationship between the two. It's like me posting

DaSpudLord (never) wrote:

Android is better than iOS.

without providing any reasoning. And while it is true, without providing any information or argument as to why that statememt is correct makes no sense. Also, just because two items are on the same page doesn't make them related ideas. I could post a link to Agar.io and a link to Facebook in the same post, that doesn't mean that they are related or similar.

-Cherri- wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

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1. First of all, you quoted half of my sentence, you cut off the sentence after it. I meant to say, while there will be traffic, there will be people reporting the spam.
2. First of all, you wouldn't get banned, and the same thing goes for featured projects right? People spam that too yet thats still there.
3. Exactly.. give them some time to learn about the forums… was that supposed to be against what I was saying?…
4. So your saying they deserve to be on the frontpage for 30 seconds?… It. Is. Not. Useful.

1. So? I quoted the reporting in the NEXT quote.
2. You CLEARLY stated they'd report people. They would get banned.
3. Sort of.
4. I'm saying about the Discussion thing, not for everything else like recently shared. So, that's not really proving anything.

1. ….
2. You don't banned after one report.
3. Um..
4. ??? What?

1. You said in the next quote:
there would ALSO be a bunch of people reporting the bad things.
2. There would be multiple reports so…
3. Let's skip this part, it doesn't really matter
4. I thought we were talking about DISCUSSIONS on the front page not recently shared projects.

1. Just… it makes no sense.
2. There would only be one report per post… I think. And since it's the SAME post, there would only be one report.
3. Yeah…
4. Oh.. I'm confused.

For 2, you can have multiple reports one post

Zekrom01 wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

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1. First of all, you quoted half of my sentence, you cut off the sentence after it. I meant to say, while there will be traffic, there will be people reporting the spam.
2. First of all, you wouldn't get banned, and the same thing goes for featured projects right? People spam that too yet thats still there.
3. Exactly.. give them some time to learn about the forums… was that supposed to be against what I was saying?…
4. So your saying they deserve to be on the frontpage for 30 seconds?… It. Is. Not. Useful.

1. So? I quoted the reporting in the NEXT quote.
2. You CLEARLY stated they'd report people. They would get banned.
3. Sort of.
4. I'm saying about the Discussion thing, not for everything else like recently shared. So, that's not really proving anything.

1. ….
2. You don't banned after one report.
3. Um..
4. ??? What?

1. You said in the next quote:
there would ALSO be a bunch of people reporting the bad things.
2. There would be multiple reports so…
3. Let's skip this part, it doesn't really matter
4. I thought we were talking about DISCUSSIONS on the front page not recently shared projects.

1. Just… it makes no sense.
2. There would only be one report per post… I think. And since it's the SAME post, there would only be one report.
3. Yeah…
4. Oh.. I'm confused.

For 2, you can have multiple reports one post

Ik, but you can't get banned for mutliple reports on the same post.

DaSpudLord wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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-__- Nu. That's not what I'm saying.

Then what are you saying?

Fuzzbutt wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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1. If a project is just a test of a cat changing color, I don't think it needs overwhelming popularity. And if you think the RSP bar is beneficial to Scratch and your Scratching experience, then a What the Community is Discussing bar would be more beneficial.

What does a RSP bar have to do with a Discussion bar? Your argument only makes sense if you can prove why one is more beneficial.

I'm SAYING that the recently shared projects should be completely ignored, not other projects. Okay, newbies are learning to code, so why do others have to see THEIR learning?

Oh and, I started the whole recently shared thing, so I can tell you why. THE recently shared bar is NOT beneficial, and if you think it IS , then the discuss bar is even more beneficial than seeing other scratchers “learn”.

Exactly.

1. The Recently Shared Projects bar is filled with more than just new scratchers. Every project shared on Scratch was once in the Recently Shared Projects bar. If you looked every once in a while, you'd be suprised what you would find.
2. You have yet to explain why it is less beneficial than the discuss bar, or the relationship between the two. It's like me posting

DaSpudLord (never) wrote:

Android is better than iOS.

without providing any reasoning. And while it is true, without providing any information or argument as to why that statememt is correct makes no sense. Also, just because two items are on the same page doesn't make them related ideas. I could post a link to Agar.io and a link to Facebook in the same post, that doesn't mean that they are related or similar.

It's less beneficial, because even though there could be some good projects there, it's not like anyone but you is going to see it. It IS NOT making at project more popular. The discuss bar will let people spread opinions about the community. The RS bar doesn't help the community in anyway, it just gains a project one view. -___-

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DaSpudLord wrote:

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It's less beneficial, because even though there could be some good projects there, it's not like anyone but you is going to see it. It IS NOT making at project more popular. The discuss bar will let people spread opinions about the community. The RS bar doesn't help the community in anyway, it just gains a project one view. -___-

Alright. I get it. You don't like the recently shared projects bar. But I do. And I'm sure plenty of other Scratchers out there do. You just don't use it enough to enjoy it's benefits. And for some Scratchers, one view makes all the difference. You may not be affected if you were to lose one view on a project. But when you're invisible- practically alone, rarely getting any views, much less loves and faves on any of your projects- one view, one like, and/or one favorite can mean a lot.

Also, the only thing that a discuss bar will spread is spam. New Scratchers will see it and start posting willy nilly, without putting any thought into their posts. Sure, we have the 120 second rule and the report button, but would you rather let spam be created and then tell the user not to do it again, or keep the spam from being created in the first place?

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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It's less beneficial, because even though there could be some good projects there, it's not like anyone but you is going to see it. It IS NOT making at project more popular. The discuss bar will let people spread opinions about the community. The RS bar doesn't help the community in anyway, it just gains a project one view. -___-

Alright. I get it. You don't like the recently shared projects bar. But I do. And I'm sure plenty of other Scratchers out there do. You just don't use it enough to enjoy it's benefits. And for some Scratchers, one view makes all the difference. You may not be affected if you were to lose one view on a project. But when you're invisible- practically alone, rarely getting any views, much less loves and faves on any of your projects- one view, one like, and/or one favorite can mean a lot.

Also, the only thing that a discuss bar will spread is spam. New Scratchers will see it and start posting willy nilly, without putting any thought into their posts. Sure, we have the 120 second rule and the report button, but would you rather let spam be created and then tell the user not to do it again, or keep the spam from being created in the first place?

I agree, I see the Recently shared quite often.

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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It's less beneficial, because even though there could be some good projects there, it's not like anyone but you is going to see it. It IS NOT making at project more popular. The discuss bar will let people spread opinions about the community. The RS bar doesn't help the community in anyway, it just gains a project one view. -___-

Alright. I get it. You don't like the recently shared projects bar. But I do. And I'm sure plenty of other Scratchers out there do. You just don't use it enough to enjoy it's benefits. And for some Scratchers, one view makes all the difference. You may not be affected if you were to lose one view on a project. But when you're invisible- practically alone, rarely getting any views, much less loves and faves on any of your projects- one view, one like, and/or one favorite can mean a lot.

Also, the only thing that a discuss bar will spread is spam. New Scratchers will see it and start posting willy nilly, without putting any thought into their posts. Sure, we have the 120 second rule and the report button, but would you rather let spam be created and then tell the user not to do it again, or keep the spam from being created in the first place?

If the spammer doesn't spam here, he will spam on Featured projects or others like that. It's better for him/her to do it in the forums because of the 120 second rule that keeps him/her from spamming as much as they would on a Featured project.

Fuzzbutt wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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-snipe-

-another snipe-

If the spammer doesn't spam here, he will spam on Featured projects or others like that. It's better for him/her to do it in the forums because of the 120 second rule that keeps him/her from spamming as much as they would on a Featured project.

There's no better at all. No matter where you do it, it's bad.

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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-snipe-

-another snipe-

If the spammer doesn't spam here, he will spam on Featured projects or others like that. It's better for him/her to do it in the forums because of the 120 second rule that keeps him/her from spamming as much as they would on a Featured project.

There's no better at all. No matter where you do it, it's bad.

It's better if you only do it once every two minutes than as much as you want.

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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-snipe-

-another snipe-

If the spammer doesn't spam here, he will spam on Featured projects or others like that. It's better for him/her to do it in the forums because of the 120 second rule that keeps him/her from spamming as much as they would on a Featured project.

There's no better at all. No matter where you do it, it's bad.

It's better if you only do it once every two minutes than as much as you want.

True, but it's bad either way, so that's why theres no better.

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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-snipe-

-another snipe-

If the spammer doesn't spam here, he will spam on Featured projects or others like that. It's better for him/her to do it in the forums because of the 120 second rule that keeps him/her from spamming as much as they would on a Featured project.

There's no better at all. No matter where you do it, it's bad.

It's better if you only do it once every two minutes than as much as you want.

True, but it's bad either way, so that's why theres no better.

Either is bad, but one is the worse of two evils.

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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-snipe-

-another snipe-

If the spammer doesn't spam here, he will spam on Featured projects or others like that. It's better for him/her to do it in the forums because of the 120 second rule that keeps him/her from spamming as much as they would on a Featured project.

There's no better at all. No matter where you do it, it's bad.

It's better if you only do it once every two minutes than as much as you want.

True, but it's bad either way, so that's why theres no better.

Either is bad, but one is the worse of two evils.

Can we stop talking about which is better
They're both equally bad. They're spamming. Spamming is spamming. Spam has 4 letters, 1 is the worst, 4-1=3, spam is illuminati (sorry that was bad)

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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-snipe-

-another snipe-

If the spammer doesn't spam here, he will spam on Featured projects or others like that. It's better for him/her to do it in the forums because of the 120 second rule that keeps him/her from spamming as much as they would on a Featured project.

There's no better at all. No matter where you do it, it's bad.

It's better if you only do it once every two minutes than as much as you want.

True, but it's bad either way, so that's why theres no better.

Either is bad, but one is the worse of two evils.

Does it matter where the user spams? Spam is spam. And, as a new scratcher, you can only comment once every 60 or 30 seconds or something; I can't remember which. And besides, spam from new scratchers is usually just the user introducing themselves or asking a question, which are okay to do in comments, since comment sections don't really have a defined topic. But the forums do have a defined topic (for example, this one is for suggestions), so an introduction wouldn't be as welcome here.

DaSpudLord wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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-snipe-

-another snipe-

If the spammer doesn't spam here, he will spam on Featured projects or others like that. It's better for him/her to do it in the forums because of the 120 second rule that keeps him/her from spamming as much as they would on a Featured project.

There's no better at all. No matter where you do it, it's bad.

It's better if you only do it once every two minutes than as much as you want.

True, but it's bad either way, so that's why theres no better.

Either is bad, but one is the worse of two evils.

Does it matter where the user spams? Spam is spam. And, as a new scratcher, you can only comment once every 60 or 30 seconds or something; I can't remember which. And besides, spam from new scratchers is usually just the user introducing themselves or asking a question, which are okay to do in comments, since comment sections don't really have a defined topic. But the forums do have a defined topic (for example, this one is for suggestions), so an introduction wouldn't be as welcome here.

Spam is spam. Why is spam so much worse on the forums to you? And on featured projects there will be even MORE spam, because the wait is only 30 seconds. Yet, there is still a featured proj. bar.

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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It's less beneficial, because even though there could be some good projects there, it's not like anyone but you is going to see it. It IS NOT making at project more popular. The discuss bar will let people spread opinions about the community. The RS bar doesn't help the community in anyway, it just gains a project one view. -___-

Alright. I get it. You don't like the recently shared projects bar. But I do. And I'm sure plenty of other Scratchers out there do. You just don't use it enough to enjoy it's benefits. And for some Scratchers, one view makes all the difference. You may not be affected if you were to lose one view on a y and project. But when you're invisible- practically alone, rarely getting any views, much less loves and faves on any of your projects- one view, one like, and/or one favorite can mean a lot.

Also, the only thing that a discuss bar will spread is spam. New Scratchers will see it and start posting willy nilly, without putting any thought into their posts. Sure, we have the 120 second rule and the report button, but would you rather let spam be created and then tell the user not to do it again, or keep the spam from being created in the first place?

Would you rather have spam that could easily be reported, or more scratchers giving their opinion on the community, and making it better?
Okay, it may mean a ton to them, it still doesn't get it noticed.

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DaSpudLord wrote:

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Spam is spam. Why is spam so much worse on the forums to you? And on featured projects there will be even MORE spam, because the wait is only 30 seconds. Yet, there is still a featured proj. bar.

Most spam is done on accident, and is usually 1-3 posts introducing oneself or asking a simple question. On featured projects, introducing oneself or asking questions is not against the rules. In the forums, however, it is against the rules if not done in the right section of the forums.

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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Would you rather have spam that could easily be reported, or more scratchers giving their opinion on the community, and making it better?
Okay, it may mean a ton to them, it still doesn't get it noticed.

I'd rather have the latter, but this is not the best way to do that.

And you make it seem like those Scratchers' feelings don't matter. And sure, the project may not become popular, but the combined number of likes and favorites caused by the RSP bar across every project is still significant.

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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Spam is spam. Why is spam so much worse on the forums to you? And on featured projects there will be even MORE spam, because the wait is only 30 seconds. Yet, there is still a featured proj. bar.

Most spam is done on accident, and is usually 1-3 posts introducing oneself or asking a simple question. On featured projects, introducing oneself or asking questions is not against the rules. In the forums, however, it is against the rules if not done in the right section of the forums.

Even though it isn't against the rules, spam is STILL spam. Now I am going to do some sort of a hyperbole heheh. You saying that is like you saying that since its not illegal to smoke it's okay to do it.

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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Spam is spam. Why is spam so much worse on the forums to you? And on featured projects there will be even MORE spam, because the wait is only 30 seconds. Yet, there is still a featured proj. bar.

Most spam is done on accident, and is usually 1-3 posts introducing oneself or asking a simple question. On featured projects, introducing oneself or asking questions is not against the rules. In the forums, however, it is against the rules if not done in the right section of the forums.

Even though it isn't against the rules, spam is STILL spam. Now I am going to do some sort of a hyperbole heheh. You saying that is like you saying that since its not illegal to smoke it's okay to do it.

As long as the user is following the rules and doing it in a polite manner, I see no problem with a new scratcher introducing themselves or asking a question. Smileyspam? Yes, that is against the rules and should be reported. A simple “hi im new how do i create a studio?” Nothing wrong there. Definitely not hurting anyone, and definitely not related to smoking.

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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Spam is spam. Why is spam so much worse on the forums to you? And on featured projects there will be even MORE spam, because the wait is only 30 seconds. Yet, there is still a featured proj. bar.

Most spam is done on accident, and is usually 1-3 posts introducing oneself or asking a simple question. On featured projects, introducing oneself or asking questions is not against the rules. In the forums, however, it is against the rules if not done in the right section of the forums.

Even though it isn't against the rules, spam is STILL spam. Now I am going to do some sort of a hyperbole heheh. You saying that is like you saying that since its not illegal to smoke it's okay to do it.

As long as the user is following the rules and doing it in a polite manner, I see no problem with a new scratcher introducing themselves or asking a question. Smileyspam? Yes, that is against the rules and should be reported. A simple “hi im new how do i create a project?” Nothing wrong there. Definitely not hurting anyone, and definitely not related to smoking.

Well, what I was saying before wasn't anywhere related to guns?… What your saying is, when you do it, it gets a point across, but when I do it, it doesn't? -___-

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

-Cherri- wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

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Spam is spam. Why is spam so much worse on the forums to you? And on featured projects there will be even MORE spam, because the wait is only 30 seconds. Yet, there is still a featured proj. bar.

Most spam is done on accident, and is usually 1-3 posts introducing oneself or asking a simple question. On featured projects, introducing oneself or asking questions is not against the rules. In the forums, however, it is against the rules if not done in the right section of the forums.

Even though it isn't against the rules, spam is STILL spam. Now I am going to do some sort of a hyperbole heheh. You saying that is like you saying that since its not illegal to smoke it's okay to do it.

As long as the user is following the rules and doing it in a polite manner, I see no problem with a new scratcher introducing themselves or asking a question. Smileyspam? Yes, that is against the rules and should be reported. A simple “hi im new how do i create a project?” Nothing wrong there. Definitely not hurting anyone, and definitely not related to smoking.

Well, what I was saying before wasn't anywhere related to guns?… What your saying is, when you do it, it gets a point across, but when I do it, it doesn't? -___-

I have no problem with you using hyperboles. In fact, your hyperbole and argument was perfectly valid- if this was a pro-spam and anti-spam argument, which it isn't. I wasn't supporting spam and I don't support spam, unless everyone that will be affected by the spam is okay with it happening and there are no anti-spam rules in place.