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EllaBellaZue
Scratcher
76 posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

A lot of people are against recolors , so I thought we should make a scratch rule against recolors , recolors are not creative and hurt ESPECIALLY if you specify ‘NO RECOLORS’ Ive never had a recolor , but how would you feel if you drew something and left it on your desk , and you com back from getting a snack , and there your picture lays , completely scribbled over. Plus it doesn't make you any better at art by coloring over peoples art. it's a quite hurtful if you specify ‘NO RECOLORS’ and they recolor it , and art theft…. that's even worse , claiming another's hard work your own. It can hurt. I could go on for ages about recolors and art theft. Please just hear me out.
Nether_before
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

EllaBellaZue wrote:

A lot of people are against recolors , so I thought we should make a scratch rule against recolors , recolors are not creative and hurt ESPECIALLY if you specify ‘NO RECOLORS’ Ive never had a recolor , but how would you feel if you drew something and left it on your desk , and you com back from getting a snack , and there your picture lays , completely scribbled over. Plus it doesn't make you any better at art by coloring over peoples art. it's a quite hurtful if you specify ‘NO RECOLORS’ and they recolor it , and art theft…. that's even worse , claiming another's hard work your own. It can hurt. I could go on for ages about recolors and art theft. Please just hear me out.
I think you could possibly report that, emphasis on the possibly. If someone's taken your art, recolored it, claimed it as their own and hasn't taken it down even if you've asked them, you could probably report it.
Firedrake969
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

If they don't give credit, report it.
If they do, it's fine.
EllaBellaZue
Scratcher
76 posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft


Nether_before wrote:

EllaBellaZue wrote:

A lot of people are against recolors , so I thought we should make a scratch rule against recolors , recolors are not creative and hurt ESPECIALLY if you specify ‘NO RECOLORS’ Ive never had a recolor , but how would you feel if you drew something and left it on your desk , and you com back from getting a snack , and there your picture lays , completely scribbled over. Plus it doesn't make you any better at art by coloring over peoples art. it's a quite hurtful if you specify ‘NO RECOLORS’ and they recolor it , and art theft…. that's even worse , claiming another's hard work your own. It can hurt. I could go on for ages about recolors and art theft. Please just hear me out.
I think you could possibly report that, emphasis on the possibly. If someone's taken your art, recolored it, claimed it as their own and hasn't taken it down even if you've asked them, you could probably report it.
Even when I report them the scratch team says they found ‘nothing wrong’
Firedrake969
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

That means they gave credit.
EllaBellaZue
Scratcher
76 posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

Firedrake969 wrote:

If they don't give credit, report it.
If they do, it's fine.
But if you asked them NOT to recolor than they should respect you.
EllaBellaZue
Scratcher
76 posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

Firedrake969 wrote:

That means they gave credit.

*Sighs* that is the case sometimes.
Nether_before
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

EllaBellaZue wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

If they don't give credit, report it.
If they do, it's fine.
But if you asked them NOT to recolor than they should respect you.
Sadly, because of scratch's remix policy, you can't stop that.
EllaBellaZue
Scratcher
76 posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

Nether_before wrote:

EllaBellaZue wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

If they don't give credit, report it.
If they do, it's fine.
But if you asked them NOT to recolor than they should respect you.
Sadly, because of scratch's remix policy, you can't stop that.
Yeah…
Blank1234
Scratcher
500+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

u can report them if they dont give credt, or claim it as there own

TheMonsterOfTheDeep
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

It is, in a way, disrespectful itself to say “no recolors” on a project.

The fact is that if you don't want somebody to recolor your art, you shouldn't share it on Scratch because as long as a person gives credit and makes a distinguishable change, it is allowed on Scratch.
Firedrake969
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:

It is, in a way, disrespectful itself to say “no recolors” on a project.

The fact is that if you don't want somebody to recolor your art, you shouldn't share it on Scratch because as long as a person gives credit and makes a distinguishable change, it is allowed on Scratch.
joshuaho
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

Recolorings are actually allowed. When a user recolors something, it counts as a change as they are changing the colors. So, as long as credit is given, there's no reason why a user can't recolor another project.

As said above, all projects shared on the website can be remixed. If you don't want that to happen, then don't share them on the website.
cheddargirl
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:

It is, in a way, disrespectful itself to say “no recolors” on a project.

The fact is that if you don't want somebody to recolor your art, you shouldn't share it on Scratch because as long as a person gives credit and makes a distinguishable change, it is allowed on Scratch.

joshuaho wrote:

Recolorings are actually allowed. When a user recolors something, it counts as a change as they are changing the colors. So, as long as credit is given, there's no reason why a user can't recolor another project.

As said above, all projects shared on the website can be remixed. If you don't want that to happen, then don't share them on the website.
^These two posts sums up the policy quite nicely.

A lot of users think that additional permission is required to remix a project and that they can put up things in notes such as “no remixing/”no recolors"/etc. rules. The reality is that this that this practice goes against the remix policy (let alone violates the CC license that is automatically put on projects when they are shared), and we have sometimes unshared projects whose notes go against this policy with a notification not to discourage remixing.

We're not one to shy away from art on the Scratch website or from Scratch being used as an art software, but what you are aiming for is an online community where art is simply displayed not shared. The Scratch website isn't that community, and trying to change an existing online website (Scratch or otherwise) to fit your needs isn't sensible, it just doesn't work that way. There are other websites out there that better fit this purpose, you just need to search for it.
IronBit_Studios
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

cheddargirl wrote:

TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:

It is, in a way, disrespectful itself to say “no recolors” on a project.

The fact is that if you don't want somebody to recolor your art, you shouldn't share it on Scratch because as long as a person gives credit and makes a distinguishable change, it is allowed on Scratch.

joshuaho wrote:

Recolorings are actually allowed. When a user recolors something, it counts as a change as they are changing the colors. So, as long as credit is given, there's no reason why a user can't recolor another project.

As said above, all projects shared on the website can be remixed. If you don't want that to happen, then don't share them on the website.
^These two posts sums up the policy quite nicely.

A lot of users think that additional permission is required to remix a project and that they can put up things in notes such as “no remixing/”no recolors"/etc. rules. The reality is that this that this practice goes against the remix policy (let alone violates the CC license that is automatically put on projects when they are shared), and we have sometimes unshared projects whose notes go against this policy with a notification not to discourage remixing.

We're not one to shy away from art on the Scratch website or from Scratch being used as an art software, but what you are aiming for is an online community where art is simply displayed not shared. The Scratch website isn't that community, and trying to change an existing online website (Scratch or otherwise) to fit your needs isn't sensible, it just doesn't work that way. There are other websites out there that better fit this purpose, you just need to search for it.
Econinja
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

EllaBellaZue wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

If they don't give credit, report it.
If they do, it's fine.
But if you asked them NOT to recolor than they should respect you.
By saying “no recolors” you are breaking the Scratch license (Creative Commons ShareAlike 2.0) which I will share the link if I get the ST's permission to do so Therefore, you shouldn't do it because you violate the license (unless you unshare the project)
And:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:

It is, in a way, disrespectful itself to say “no recolors” on a project.

The fact is that if you don't want somebody to recolor your art, you shouldn't share it on Scratch because as long as a person gives credit and makes a distinguishable change, it is allowed on Scratch.

joshuaho wrote:

Recolorings are actually allowed. When a user recolors something, it counts as a change as they are changing the colors. So, as long as credit is given, there's no reason why a user can't recolor another project.

As said above, all projects shared on the website can be remixed. If you don't want that to happen, then don't share them on the website.
^These two posts sums up the policy quite nicely.

A lot of users think that additional permission is required to remix a project and that they can put up things in notes such as “no remixing/”no recolors"/etc. rules. The reality is that this that this practice goes against the remix policy (let alone violates the CC license that is automatically put on projects when they are shared), and we have sometimes unshared projects whose notes go against this policy with a notification not to discourage remixing.

We're not one to shy away from art on the Scratch website or from Scratch being used as an art software, but what you are aiming for is an online community where art is simply displayed not shared. The Scratch website isn't that community, and trying to change an existing online website (Scratch or otherwise) to fit your needs isn't sensible, it just doesn't work that way. There are other websites out there that better fit this purpose, you just need to search for it.
EDIT: Why has no ST member closed this?

Last edited by Econinja (July 20, 2015 04:30:44)

cheddargirl
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

Econinja wrote:

EDIT: Why has no ST member closed this?
We've been having an unusual uptick against recolor remixes lately. I'm leaving it open for now in case anyone else has any inquiries on why we allow recoloring on the Scratch website
DaSpudLord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

Econinja wrote:

EllaBellaZue wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

If they don't give credit, report it.
If they do, it's fine.
But if you asked them NOT to recolor than they should respect you.
By saying “no recolors” you are breaking the Scratch license (Creative Commons ShareAlike 2.0) which I will share the link if I get the ST's permission to do so Therefore, you shouldn't do it because you violate the license (unless you unshare the project)
And:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:

It is, in a way, disrespectful itself to say “no recolors” on a project.

The fact is that if you don't want somebody to recolor your art, you shouldn't share it on Scratch because as long as a person gives credit and makes a distinguishable change, it is allowed on Scratch.

joshuaho wrote:

Recolorings are actually allowed. When a user recolors something, it counts as a change as they are changing the colors. So, as long as credit is given, there's no reason why a user can't recolor another project.

As said above, all projects shared on the website can be remixed. If you don't want that to happen, then don't share them on the website.
^These two posts sums up the policy quite nicely.

A lot of users think that additional permission is required to remix a project and that they can put up things in notes such as “no remixing/”no recolors"/etc. rules. The reality is that this that this practice goes against the remix policy (let alone violates the CC license that is automatically put on projects when they are shared), and we have sometimes unshared projects whose notes go against this policy with a notification not to discourage remixing.

We're not one to shy away from art on the Scratch website or from Scratch being used as an art software, but what you are aiming for is an online community where art is simply displayed not shared. The Scratch website isn't that community, and trying to change an existing online website (Scratch or otherwise) to fit your needs isn't sensible, it just doesn't work that way. There are other websites out there that better fit this purpose, you just need to search for it.
EDIT: Why has no ST member closed this?
iamunknown2
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

EllaBellaZue wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

If they don't give credit, report it.
If they do, it's fine.
But if you asked them NOT to recolor than they should respect you.
Imagine if the creator of Linux suddenly said: PAY ME OR NO PROPRIETARY LINUX UPDATES FOR YOU

Plus, the license your project is under means that they are allowed to remix it, as long as they 1) give credit and 2) it isn't a project copy.
PrincessPanda_test_
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

cheddargirl wrote:

TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:

It is, in a way, disrespectful itself to say “no recolors” on a project.

The fact is that if you don't want somebody to recolor your art, you shouldn't share it on Scratch because as long as a person gives credit and makes a distinguishable change, it is allowed on Scratch.

joshuaho wrote:

Recolorings are actually allowed. When a user recolors something, it counts as a change as they are changing the colors. So, as long as credit is given, there's no reason why a user can't recolor another project.

As said above, all projects shared on the website can be remixed. If you don't want that to happen, then don't share them on the website.
^These two posts sums up the policy quite nicely.

A lot of users think that additional permission is required to remix a project and that they can put up things in notes such as “no remixing/”no recolors"/etc. rules. The reality is that this that this practice goes against the remix policy (let alone violates the CC license that is automatically put on projects when they are shared), and we have sometimes unshared projects whose notes go against this policy with a notification not to discourage remixing.

We're not one to shy away from art on the Scratch website or from Scratch being used as an art software, but what you are aiming for is an online community where art is simply displayed not shared. The Scratch website isn't that community, and trying to change an existing online website (Scratch or otherwise) to fit your needs isn't sensible, it just doesn't work that way. There are other websites out there that better fit this purpose, you just need to search for it.

Agreed.

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