"When I receive as a clone" block

SurgeForce

Clones can't receive broadcasts.

when I receive [message1 v] as clone::events hat

Zro716

SurgeForce wrote:
Clones can't receive broadcasts.

Yes they can. The thing is you need to discern the parent from the clone by using a var for recognition of either (isClone?):

when I receive [message v]
if <(isClone?) = [true]> then
  script for a clone ::grey
else
  script for the parent sprite ::grey //optional
end

UndeadSorcerer

In the game I am making I have a lot of variables. Mainly just because of the when I receive script. It goes to clones too so it makes clones do things you don't want them to do. I have about 20 variables and it is very confusing. Here is what I am suggesting:

when [clone v] receive [message1 v] :: hat events

You can change clone to:

when [original v] receive [message1 v] :: hat events

I think this will be a useful block.

Last edited by Paddle2See (Oct. 13, 2023 08:35:00)

stickfiregames

Maybe support, although you can just use a clone ID system and have

when I receive [message v]
if <(clone id) = [0]> then
original stuff :: grey
else
clone stuff :: grey
end

matey1234

stickfiregames wrote:
Maybe support, although you can just use a clone ID system and have
when I receive [message v]
if <(clone id) = [0]> then
original stuff :: grey
else
clone stuff :: grey
end

this.

JavaFernOS

support! Every complex clone scratcher really needs this to prevent a little lag.

Really_A

I change my mind. Support!

Last edited by Really_A (March 21, 2015 07:27:05)

Cyoce

No support for the dropdown receive block. As has been mentioned above, a clone-ID system allows for easy implementation of this. Not to mention the fact that most projects that would need to distinguish clones from the original sprite should probably be using a clone-ID system anyway.
Additionally, putting a dropdown on the “when I receive [ v]” block could be confusing and might (slightly) increase file size (when not using a clone system, which is true for most project).

My suggestion to circumvent the confusion is to have a new block (as opposed to modifying a current one):

When I receive [message1 v] as a clone :: control hat

This would keep the existing receive block untouched, and add all the functionality of the suggested dropdown block.

Last edited by Cyoce (March 21, 2015 04:33:12)

kvackkvack

Make a new variable, but make it “for this sprite only”. Call it something like “clone?”.
In the main script, set clone? to 0, but inn the clones script, set clone? to 1.
When you want to check if a clone has received the broadcast, add an if-statement that checks if “clone?” is 1, because then it is a clone.
The trick here is that “for this sprite only” (I'll call them local from now on) variables, are not only local to the sprite… but also for each and every clone.

Last edited by kvackkvack (March 21, 2015 10:52:00)

Tommy100

when I receive [ v] as a clone :: hat control

I've always had a struggle receiving messages with clones. Sure, you can use a variable, but the block above would make it so much more simpler! This way clones could receive messages the same as sprites can!

- Supports: 2
@Aboot4
@Critic2100

Last edited by Tommy100 (June 19, 2015 16:06:12)

dude341

when I receive [ v]

Works for clones. ST, please close this topic.

Tommy100

dude341 wrote:
when I receive [ v]
Works for clones. ST, please close this topic.

Hey, that wasn't very nice!

That does not work for clones.

Aboot4

dude341 wrote:
when I receive [ v]
Works for clones. ST, please close this topic.

No it doesn't. Why don't you reread what Tommy asked for again before making accusations? You misunderstood what he was saying. He wants the certain clone to receive the message, not receive the message then do clone stuff. He doesn't mean this:

when I receive [Blah v]
create clone of [myself v]

Nothing like that. He means this:

when I receive [Blah v] as a clone :: hat control
delete this clone

If you tried to do it the way YOU thought he meant, you'd have to do something like this:

when green flag clicked
forever
    
create clone of [myself v]
change [CloneID v] by (1) 
wait (2) secs
end


when I receive [Blah v]
[Delete Clone - ID: (ID)


[scratchblocks]
define Delete Clone - ID: (ID)
Delete Clone (ID)
[/scratchblocks]

   

  AS YOU CAN SEE, it is VERY difficult to allow a clone to receive a message without the block Tommy wants. I couldn't even figure out a workaround, so I made up a fake block above (:P). Still, try to be nice, okay? It's a good idea, Tommy. Support.

Last edited by Aboot4 (June 19, 2015 16:05:46)

Critic2100

Support!

Tommy100

Aboot4 wrote:
dude341 wrote:
when I receive [ v]
Works for clones. ST, please close this topic.
No it doesn't. Why don't you reread what Tommy asked for again before making accusations? You misunderstood what he was saying. He wants the certain clone to receive the message, not receive the message then do clone stuff. He doesn't mean this:
when I receive [Blah v]
create clone of [myself v]
Nothing like that. He means this:
when I receive [Blah v] as a clone :: hat control
delete this clone
If you tried to do it the way YOU thought he meant, you'd have to do something like this:
when green flag clicked
forever
    
create clone of [myself v]
change [CloneID v] by (1)
wait (2) secs
end


when I receive [Blah v]
[Delete Clone - ID: (ID)
define Delete Clone - ID: (ID)
Delete Clone (ID)
AS YOU CAN SEE, it is VERY difficult to allow a clone to receive a message without the block Tommy wants. I couldn't even figure out a workaround, so I made up a fake block above (). Still, try to be nice, okay? It's a good idea, Tommy. Support.

Thanks!

Tommy100

Critic2100 wrote:
Support!

Thanks!

Aboot4

Actually, there IS a way around:

when green flag clicked
set [Delete v] to [0]

when I receive [Delete Clone v]
change [Delete v] by (1)


when I start as a clone
forever
    
if <(Delete) = [1]> then
delete this clone
    
end

end

Last edited by Aboot4 (June 19, 2015 16:08:10)

seanbobe

when green flag clicked
set [clone? v] to [0] // clone? is sprite only


when I start as a clone
change [clone? v] by (1)


when I receive [Message1 as a clone v]
if <(clone?) = [1]> then
    ...
end

Znapi

The block is too specific for me. It is too easy to create a variable, plus if you want to attach IDs to your clones(for the many useful reasons), you are going to have a variable for each clone anyway.

stickfiregames

No support, too specific. I might support

<I am a clone? :: sensing>

which could be used in more ways, and would let you work around this with

when I receive [message v]
if <I am a clone? :: sensing> then
...
end

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